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Question on the Double Bridle.

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DUNLOP Sandy
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Hello All,
When useing the Full Bridle in a two hand hold why do most riders use the Austro-Hungarian (German) hold ( curb and snaffle reins crossed)? Can the bits be used independently of one another when held in this fashion?In the Fillis (French)two hand hold there is good separation between the hold on the two bits and I can understand how each can be used separately,together,or on each side of the mouth,one independent of the other.
My regards,
Sandy.

WEAL Andy
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Hi Sandy,

You must have given up all hope of an answer!!

I have only just seen this, sorry :-)

Anyway I have used/do use both these ways of holding the reins - do you?

There are a few drawbacks to the Fillis way, that I have found over the years:

In general I find that beside the "technical side" of what you can do with the different ways of holding the reins, there is a very significant "communicated intention" side. Put a very sensitive horse with a competent but less tactful rider and the Fillis way and you'll see what I mean. It can be too much for the horse. The rider has too much power, the intent is too hands-focussed. Very often the rider will forget to "say please", the request will become a demand.... some horse will accept, others will find that less acceptable.

So the Fillis way can make riders "handy" instead of discrete. I also find it is more difficult (but not impossible) to keep a quiet, following hand and a soft contact as well.

Adjusting the reins also takes a lot of practice and a couple of good tips, and somehow a lot of adjusting seems needed...

So for all its advantages in terms of possibilities, and I do believe it is worth knowing, I tend to use it for very specific cases when I want to make sure that I am acting upwards rather than compressing my horse (for instance in a difficult situation, during a presentation etc) so as not to damage the schooling, or on a day when nothing is going right (again damage limitation) Or sometimes just for a change to check a few points.

Basically I prefer the German way - as long as the hands are not acting like side reins(....) and various other details that lets the horse's head hang. The bits are not used independently but I think it allows you to use your upper body to influence the horse and forget the hand more, and I prefer that and the result it generally gives on the roundness of the horse.

I think the two components are still there, although not entirely separate, and not constantly changing, which in some horses is an advantage as I have said.

Well that should get the ball rolling

Andy

DUNLOP Sandy
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Thanks Andy.I enjoyed your comments very much particularly the one concerning 'tact'and sensitive horses.

Sandy.

WESTLIN Margareta
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Another late comment! I am starting my not-so-young-anymore - 11-yo gelding again in the double. Which he accepts - maybe even likes! And works very well in it... I use the reins 2+2 the bridoon on the little finger, just a small touch from time to time on the curb to remind him of it./Margareta in Sweden
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